Kelzy Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 We are not starting from scratch lol!Don't worry I'll fix this, even if it takes me 2 days to investigate every IP & every vote ! *will need coffee* *makes coffee for Niki* Might have to look into stopping new users from voting.. They shouldn't be voting on banners anyway.. Pfft, they don't even know what chicken is. *hmph* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Sky Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I do agree with Caz though, we might be coming down too hard on someone. All the wonderful photos we post on MFC (not the banners), photoshopped to lose their watermarks etc, borrowed from belga, getty, wireimage... we love them all, but those sites might have a lot to say to us about the legality of us doing that. So none of us is perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FREDDIESDOUBLE Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Now I see a different perspective on it ..... It is bad that we have had to deal with this , I honestly had no idea this would happen , on the other side of the coin ... not only with this I suppose we need to be aware of how many younglings we have and how much things want to be won . I won a pair of mikas shoes last week on ebay and got a loads of mega abusive emails from a child!! saying how upset she was So yeh ....... I see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikas_gal07 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Now I see a different perspective on it ..... It is bad that we have had to deal with this , I honestly had no idea this would happen , on the other side of the coin ... not only with this I suppose we need to be aware of how many younglings we have and how much things want to be won . I won a pair of mikas shoes last week on ebay and got a loads of mega abusive emails from a child!! saying how upset she was So yeh ....... I see Im not a child Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FREDDIESDOUBLE Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Im not a child :roftl: lll sign a pair of my furry rabbit slippers for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcdeb Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Yes cheating is wrong , and yes its wrong to the other particpants .. which eventually should be apologised for .. i also realise a lot of hard work has gone in from the mods !!! .. and its a shame it has come to cheating to try and win ... its wrong end of ... But cummon guys ... i dont know who the person is , but they MAY have just been a person DESPERATE for the DVD ! For all we know it could have been a youngling , who doesnt have it and cant get it from thier parents for xmas !! Whether its a youngling or not ... for all mfc members know it could be or could have been , obviously the mods will know different !! ... there are more problems that come from trolls on this forum and cheating for a dvd seems much more "innocent" than the stirring that can go on from trolls !! They probably did it without realising it would be taken so seriously , as its a banner comp !! ... im sure when they realise and view the thread they will realise how they have upset people ... but its like a witch hunt at the minute over cheating on a banner ... i doubt they WILL admit it publicly now ! ... and they shouldnt have to ... only the participants that they cheated against and the mods for thier hard work ! ..... I don't think you can say, "It's only a competition for a DVD," and then turn around and say maybe this person was desperate for the the DVD. If it's "only" a DVD, then why go to such great lengths to win it? It IS only a DVD. I don't think you can call it "innocent" to cheat. It's not innocent -- you know when you're doing it that you're doing something wrong, something that's harmful to others. Maybe some of the other banner artists are just as desperate to win the DVD but they don't resort to cheating... I don't think it's fair to them to turn a blind eye to what's happened here. I DON'T want a witch hunt -- and I don't think the person should confess publicly, or even privately for that matter. That's totally unnecessary. What are we going to do? Stone them? Of course not. If nothing else this was a valuable lesson to me, not to be so trusting. I really didn't think it would be necessary to see if anyone was trying to throw the vote off, either by using multiple identities or by some other means. I knew people would get their friends to vote for them, but I didn't realize that anyone would go to extreme measures... Now I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FREDDIESDOUBLE Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Yeh ... I see it all but Im hurt overall I was mega trusting on this , this didnt even cross my mind this would happen . I do see the side of a child (lets say) desperate to win , but much more all the time and effort that went into this .. its a kick in the teeth Anyways thats all from me .. I look forward to posting the goodies :punk: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diana Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Yeah I think this was a huge blow for all of us. Gutted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcdeb Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Anyways thats all from me .. I look forward to posting the goodies Yes, that's right! And the next time we'll do things a little differently. Forewarned is forearmed and all that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FREDDIESDOUBLE Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Yes, that's right! And the next time we'll do things a little differently. Forewarned is forearmed and all that... Weve learnt for next time <As you can tell Ive chilled> Ill be posting Friday people btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcdeb Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Ill be posting Friday people btw I kept thinking, "Posting? What's he going to post about?" Then I realized you meant *mailing* the prizes! gotcha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FREDDIESDOUBLE Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I kept thinking, "Posting? What's he going to post about?" Then I realized youmeant *mailing* the prizes! gotcha! Damn English words huh? You say tomatooeeee I say tomato No the wounder it takes me hours to get a sandwich in Portland:roftl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikas_gal07 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 (edited) I don't think you can say, "It's only a competition for a DVD,"and then turn around and say maybe this person was desperate for the the DVD. If it's "only" a DVD, then why go to such great lengths to win it? It IS only a DVD. I don't think you can call it "innocent" to cheat. It's not innocent -- you know when you're doing it that you're doing something wrong, something that's harmful to others. Maybe some of the other banner artists are just as desperate to win the DVD but they don't resort to cheating... I don't think it's fair to them to turn a blind eye to what's happened here. Hi deb I didnt say it WAS innocent , I said cheating IS wrong , and its a shame for the mods and other competitors and all thier hard work ... I meant "to me" it seems quite innocent compared to alot of the other things that go on the forum like people deliberately coming on the forum to wind others up and making it thier life ambition to be a troll and annoy others - when compared to going to extraordinary measures to win a mika dvd... thats what i meant , not that its innocent .. it isnt .... and i dont think it would be fair to turn a blind eye either , i didnt say that either - i said i think the mods and other competitors have the right for an apology ... and "to me" it is just a dvd and a competition (which btw - i think is an amazing thing) - but to the person who cheated however its obviously alot more than just a DVD - im not that person .. what i was referring to is ... yes it is wrong BUT it doesnt need people going over how wrong and disgusting it is (noone in particular again)... it COULD have been a youngling ... If it was - are younglings not allowd to do silly things and learn by thier mistakes ? It maybe isnt a youngling , but my point was it COULD have been ... That was what i meant ... and i personally think in any circumstance ... its unfair to be judgemental (as im sure you agree) when people dont even know who created the banner .... as i say , it could have been a desperate youngling ... god knows i cheated at games when i was young But i got laughed at - disqualified and didnt have to go through public humiliation about it either ... what if in RL it was a 12 year old that cheated at a game for example to win a fiver ... would he be put out infront of the whole street to apologise to the neighbours ? i tend to think any youngling would be in tears if they were humiliated like that (just an example of what i was getting at earlier :-) ) I DON'T want a witch hunt -- and I don't think the person should confess publicly, or even privately for that matter. That's totally unnecessary. What are we going to do? Stone them? Of course not. That wasnt implied to anyone particular either , it was a comment in general ... But others were asking for a public apology , that was why i resulted with the witch hunt comment ... As i said before , its obvious people take it alot more serious than i personally do , which is fine!!! - and why i said , maybe MFC isnt for me today But i do think that point was worth pointing out which i did ... Caz xoxo Edited December 10, 2008 by mikas_gal07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soaring Simpson Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Regardless of anyone confessing publicly, the mods can see who the person/people are who voted through multiple accounts by looking at the IP address. Maybe people don't realise: your computer has its own IP address and no matter how many alternative member accounts you make, they are all traceable back to you. That would still let people vote at home/work/school/friend's house, if they were sufficiently determined, But (now I'm gonna get shot) perhaps this kind of dishonesty is difficult to distinguish from when we encourage each other to vote in say "kids choice" awards when we're not kids. Presumably it was one of the (leading) contestants? If not, it's tough on whoever had votes disallowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IngievV Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I voted for myself, and I asked a lot of people to vote too...am I a bad person now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikas_gal07 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 (edited) I voted for myself, and I asked a lot of people to vote too...am I a bad person now? obviously .... Edited December 10, 2008 by mikas_gal07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IngievV Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 obviously .... Well I already was so ha:mf_rosetinted: *runs to the naughty corner* Yeah I love you too:wub2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilek Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I voted for myself, and I asked a lot of people to vote too...am I a bad person now? asking ppl to vote for you is one thing, voting for yourself (multiple times that is) another! sorry you don't qualify,you're not bad enough:thumbdown: next time try harder:naughty: jk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilek Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 btw how many hours left before the voting closed now? in 48 minutes it's december 11 in here:shocked: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 btw how many hours left before the voting closed now? in 48 minutes it's december 11 in here:shocked: Niki said GMT 10pm, which will be in 45 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IngievV Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 asking ppl to vote for you is one thing, voting for yourself (multiple times that is) another! sorry you don't qualify,you're not bad enough:thumbdown: next time try harder:naughty: jk Sh*zzle, there goes my bad ass image:mf_rosetinted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babspanky Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Now I see a different perspective on it ..... It is bad that we have had to deal with this , I honestly had no idea this would happen , on the other side of the coin ... not only with this I suppose we need to be aware of how many younglings we have and how much things want to be won . I won a pair of mikas shoes last week on ebay and got a loads of mega abusive emails from a child!! saying how upset she was So yeh ....... I see Mika's shoes? Will they fit you? I don't see sparkly gold ones suiting you Fred. Im not a child No, but you have a big fat nose. Yeh ... I see it all but Im hurt overall I was mega trusting on this , this didnt even cross my mind this would happen . I do see the side of a child (lets say) desperate to win , but much more all the time and effort that went into this .. its a kick in the teeth Anyways thats all from me .. I look forward to posting the goodies :punk: Fred, darling, you are such an innocent in some ways, it's endearing. Yes, that's right! And the next time we'll do things a little differently. Forewarned is forearmed and all that... And deb, practical to the last! I have to say (and sorry to the creator of option B) I will be disappointed if there was no cheating going on there! I mean really, Mika just looks ODD to say the least. I can't believe it has so many votes! If it wins, how long will we have to put up with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilek Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 (edited) Niki said GMT 10pm, which will be in 45 minutes oh thanks! guess i should vote now:sweatdrop: well it's not gonna make a difference anyway,it needs 5 more votes after me! EDIT: voted:thumb_yello: Edited December 10, 2008 by dilek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mika4Life13 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 oh my goodness what happened here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IngievV Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I have to say (and sorry to the creator of option B) I will be disappointed if there was no cheating going on there! I mean really, Mika just looks ODD to say the least. I can't believe it has so many votes! If it wins, how long will we have to put up with it? I'm sorry to disappoint you love, but my hands are clean:thumb_yello: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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